tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6606798.post2972945625135749506..comments2024-03-29T14:09:49.674+00:00Comments on Liberal England: No one knows anything about politics – here are my 12 hot takes on the general election resultJonathan Calderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00730157683743989696noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6606798.post-23740023032384132772017-06-11T13:45:19.352+01:002017-06-11T13:45:19.352+01:00> in seats where we do not campaign, the Libera...> in seats where we do not campaign, the Liberal Democrat vote is vanishingly small.<br />Unfortunately, the corollary is not true. Ask the people in Lewes, Ceredigion, Cardiff Central, Montgomery and Brecon & Radnor among others.Frank Littlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12447989626809704972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6606798.post-62721295023012447522017-06-11T10:58:46.256+01:002017-06-11T10:58:46.256+01:00On the Jeremy Corbyn/Sinn Fein thing. I think you&...On the Jeremy Corbyn/Sinn Fein thing. I think you're wrong. The public discounted it mainly because "they were all at it" rather than "it was long ago".<br /><br />The ferocity of the assault may have been counterproductive too. Artillery does not work against Zen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6606798.post-14538772538382541782017-06-10T14:37:38.289+01:002017-06-10T14:37:38.289+01:00Beyond target seats and a few where we are in a re...Beyond target seats and a few where we are in a respectable second or third place, the Liberal Democrat vote has been wiped out. It seems a good time for Howarth and Pack to start preparing notes for a third version of the paper on building a Liberal Democrat core vote.<br /><br />If you look at results in multi-constituency cities from 30 or 40 years ago, you can tell where there is a concentration of students and professional people inclined to vote Liberal. It may be true today in Oxford and Edinburgh, but not in the Midlands. The LibDem vote in Nottingham in 2017 and 2015 was a quarter of that in 1974. We used to pity Liberals in seats where Labour could pin a red rosette on a winning donkey, in the knowledge that we wouldn't lose our deposit. <br /><br />Forty years of pavement slogging was trashed owing to mistakes made in the buildup to the 2010 General Election -- and there is no point going over it. My point is that the Liberal Democrats haven't learned much since 2015.<br /><br />Some people like the Liberal Democrats enough to join the party. And the party has generated donations from well wishers. I understand that four more MPs offsets loss in vote share when qualifying for Short Money (not sure if the comment was ironic). <br /><br />Outside areas where a local election campaign was conducted, LibDem vote fell. And current strategy is that we can win a few more seats with a big heave. What happens when we run out of close results?<br />Phil Beesleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18442987962398498812noreply@blogger.com