Thursday, September 25, 2014

Chief constable was ordered not to investigate Greville Janner

A story partly behind The Times paywall this morning quoted Mick Creedon, chief constable of Derbyshire, as saying that, as a detective sergeant in 1989, he was ordered by his superiors not to investigate Greville Janner, then Labour MP for Leicester West.

The Needle has a little more of the report.

The date of 1989 may be significant. Frank Beck was not arrested until April 1990 and did not accuse Greville Janner in court until November 1991.

I should add that Mr Janner has always denied allegations of this sort when they are made against him.


Phil Beesley said...

Ranks in non-Met policing in 2014:
Police Constable
Sergeant *1
Chief Inspector
Chief Superintendent
Assistant Chief Constable
Deputy Chief Constable
Chief Constable *2

*1 is Mike Creedon's rank in 1989 when he claims "stay quiet".

*2 is Mike Creedon's rank in 2014 when he isn't "quiet".

In the 1990s, Mike Creedon became an ACC in Leicestershire police, which put him amongst the officers, in rank if not in person, who had allegedly told him to be quiet a few years previously. He outranked, by then, the people who had allegedly delivered the order to shut up.

Mike Creedon should dig out his old notes and tell his story

Phil Beesley said...

Sometimes Google is unhelpful when you spell a name incorrectly. "Mike Creedon" should be read above as "Mick Creedon". Sometimes Google throws up links to new ideas.

Chief Constable Mick Creedon allegedly runs Derbyshire police services. It's on their web pages:

From which we learn that that senior police officers are appointed by ACPO: "In 2006 he moved to work as the national co-ordinator on serious and organised crime for the Association of Chief Police Officers, where he held the rank of Deputy Chief Constable."

Those words were mistaken and unintended, but they demonstrate the sloppiness of thought when considering the different interests of regional policing and ACPO.

ACPO is a private members' club. Membership is via invitation but not limited to chief coppers from the UK. ACPO has members from outside the UK and members who are not necessarily top coppers.

ACPO is treated by government as a public service agency. ACPO is treated by government as an authority on social policy and order (ie pushing people around)

Phil Beesley said...


"In addition to force and regional responsibilities, I am the national ACPO portfolio and policy lead for Proceeds of Crime and Asset Recovery, for Kidnap and Extortion and for Investigative Interviewing."

I don't think that Mick Creedon is capable of much. I understand what he means by "force".

If he can't honestly fess up incompetence after 25 years of ignoring kiddy fiddlers, there's no point for coppers like him being around.

But this is not about his confession. It's that he is a boring person, yacking away in managerialism.

"In 2007, whilst working in my national role, I introduced the concept of mapping Organised Crime Groups (OCG) with the idea of properly mapping the threat to the UK form serious and organised criminality - something that had never been done"

Without which we'd never know about ice cream gangs in Glasgow. Before Creedon was born.

"Over recent years I have led the development of specialist teams to address specific complex policing issues - the growth of these has become all the more important given the growing demands on policing and the 'gap' identified by many but documented by HMIC Denis O'Connor in 2005."

What is the response?

Err, coppers spying on people using extra powers:
*East Midlands Special Operations Unit
*East Midlands Counter Intelligence Unit
*Regional Intelligence Units
*Regional Asset Recovery Teams

How much money have your Asset Recovery Teams recovered? On the scale of pissing in the wind, how much does it float the boat?